Comments on: Episode 27 of Upon Further Review! http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/ Where two ex-debaters get the last word...on EVERYTHING. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: admin http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-15020 admin Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:49:37 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-15020 Ah, I see...fair enough. We have indeed watched some of the Brit-coms before...and Clea in particular is a big fan of Red Dwarf, which was a science fictiony Brit-com you may be familiar with (actually, that might be something good to review). Also a good point about Gilliam...I knew about The Fisher King, but I had totally forgotten about the 12 Monkeys movie! Greg Ah, I see…fair enough. We have indeed watched some of the Brit-coms before…and Clea in particular is a big fan of Red Dwarf, which was a science fictiony Brit-com you may be familiar with (actually, that might be something good to review). Also a good point about Gilliam…I knew about The Fisher King, but I had totally forgotten about the 12 Monkeys movie!

Greg

]]> By: chris http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-15016 chris Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:47:07 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-15016 well, for the record, it's pre-apocalyptic, not post-. it does have that british darkness at the end, but it's a sitcom series.many of the actors are also on the brit-coms that pbs plays (do you guys watch those?). brazil was dark and disturbing. it would follow, though b/c the ex-pythonian who directed it (terry gilliam) wasn't one of the funny ones. look at his other movies (fisher king, 12 monkeys) and the pattern emerges. just my opinion ;-) thanks for the dialog! well, for the record, it’s pre-apocalyptic, not post-. it does have that british darkness at the end, but it’s a sitcom series.many of the actors are also on the brit-coms that pbs plays (do you guys watch those?).

brazil was dark and disturbing. it would follow, though b/c the ex-pythonian who directed it (terry gilliam) wasn’t one of the funny ones. look at his other movies (fisher king, 12 monkeys) and the pattern emerges.

just my opinion ;-) thanks for the dialog!

]]> By: admin http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-14913 admin Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:09:50 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-14913 As far as the intelligent community is concerned, amen to that! The movie sounds interesting, and we very much appreciate the offer...but Greg has to admit that if it's a post-apocalyptic deal (even a comedy one), he's probably not going to be particularly into it. He might have been the only person who was more disturbed than amused by the movie BRAZIL, which also had some Monty Python hold-overs (including Cleese, we think)...did you ever see that one? T.R. As far as the intelligent community is concerned, amen to that! The movie sounds interesting, and we very much appreciate the offer…but Greg has to admit that if it’s a post-apocalyptic deal (even a comedy one), he’s probably not going to be particularly into it. He might have been the only person who was more disturbed than amused by the movie BRAZIL, which also had some Monty Python hold-overs (including Cleese, we think)…did you ever see that one?

T.R.

]]> By: Chris http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-14855 Chris Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:50:51 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-14855 I see your points, Greg. Well put (as if I'd expect anything less). Objective journalism is just not possible when it's a business. I wonder what model would work. We've seen what happened when government controlled the media (USSR) --- hey, to that end, not sure how you feel about British comedies, but there's this old movie (there was an American remake [go figure] which should be avoided) called "Whoops! Apocalypse!" that parodied the Reagan white house, USSR, and Great British governments during the cold war. John Cleese plays the devil (a man of 1000 faces), if that gives you an idea of the tone. Interested? It's hard to find, but I have a VHS copy that I'd gladly share if you'd like to give it a try and maybe a review... Sometimes, all we can do is laugh and take solace in the fact that there is an intelligent community who isn't fooled by the business of news. Let me know about that tape. Glad to share for the good of The Review! - chris I see your points, Greg. Well put (as if I’d expect anything less). Objective journalism is just not possible when it’s a business. I wonder what model would work. We’ve seen what happened when government controlled the media (USSR) — hey, to that end, not sure how you feel about British comedies, but there’s this old movie (there was an American remake [go figure] which should be avoided) called “Whoops! Apocalypse!” that parodied the Reagan white house, USSR, and Great British governments during the cold war. John Cleese plays the devil (a man of 1000 faces), if that gives you an idea of the tone. Interested? It’s hard to find, but I have a VHS copy that I’d gladly share if you’d like to give it a try and maybe a review…

Sometimes, all we can do is laugh and take solace in the fact that there is an intelligent community who isn’t fooled by the business of news.

Let me know about that tape. Glad to share for the good of The Review!

- chris

]]> By: admin http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-13549 admin Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:21:19 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-13549 Heh--thanks, Chris. You'll soon hear what happened on the Xmas tree front as you go through the shows. As for the right wing thing in the media--for me the feeling is that although some reporters may skew liberal, the companies which run these media outlets are in general right wing, if anything. It doesn't help that Rupert Murdoch has gained such influence in this realm, but it's been a long time since we had a legitimate fourth estate, at least in the U.S. My sense is that international sources like the BBC tend to be a bit more balanced, but others would be better able to comment on that than me. All I'll say is that watching the media's "reporting" on the Iraq war has been a sad commentary on the state of affairs in journalism--and if it's not coming from a right wing perspective, it sure as heck isn't liberal propaganda we're seeing and hearing on our airwaves. That said, I'm very grateful for your thoughtful response to the idea, and I agree that generalizations of any kind can often lead to problems...including when I make them! Greg Heh–thanks, Chris. You’ll soon hear what happened on the Xmas tree front as you go through the shows.

As for the right wing thing in the media–for me the feeling is that although some reporters may skew liberal, the companies which run these media outlets are in general right wing, if anything. It doesn’t help that Rupert Murdoch has gained such influence in this realm, but it’s been a long time since we had a legitimate fourth estate, at least in the U.S. My sense is that international sources like the BBC tend to be a bit more balanced, but others would be better able to comment on that than me. All I’ll say is that watching the media’s “reporting” on the Iraq war has been a sad commentary on the state of affairs in journalism–and if it’s not coming from a right wing perspective, it sure as heck isn’t liberal propaganda we’re seeing and hearing on our airwaves. That said, I’m very grateful for your thoughtful response to the idea, and I agree that generalizations of any kind can often lead to problems…including when I make them!

Greg

]]> By: chris http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-13526 chris Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:35:00 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-13526 Clea, Greg, The Xmas tree debate was the best thing ever! That's the passion that you want from two debaters! Not that you don't give it 100% every time, but the difference of opinion and hearing you both debate it was really something! Looking forward to hearing the outcome! I think the daily show clip you played made me laugh harder than I have in a long, long time! I know it has a more liberal slant, but there's no denying that it's a prime piece of television. Always been a big Jon Stewart fan, and politics aside, I know it achieves its goals across the board. Do have to take issue with one thing said... Greg's claim that the media has a right wing agenda/spin/tendency? Really? Most media I can think of is very liberal, with the exception of business programming and Fox News, eveything from news to celebrity programs to educational television seems to have a liberal party line. But, I'm willing to take a second look to see if there's something else there! Thanks for keeping us (and each other) on our toes! See you on 28!!!! - Chris Clea, Greg,

The Xmas tree debate was the best thing ever! That’s the passion that you want from two debaters! Not that you don’t give it 100% every time, but the difference of opinion and hearing you both debate it was really something! Looking forward to hearing the outcome!

I think the daily show clip you played made me laugh harder than I have in a long, long time! I know it has a more liberal slant, but there’s no denying that it’s a prime piece of television. Always been a big Jon Stewart fan, and politics aside, I know it achieves its goals across the board.

Do have to take issue with one thing said… Greg’s claim that the media has a right wing agenda/spin/tendency? Really? Most media I can think of is very liberal, with the exception of business programming and Fox News, eveything from news to celebrity programs to educational television seems to have a liberal party line. But, I’m willing to take a second look to see if there’s something else there!

Thanks for keeping us (and each other) on our toes! See you on 28!!!!

- Chris

]]> By: admin http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-1522 admin Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:58:55 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-1522 Heh, congrats, Tim--I know how you feel. I'm finishing up my final exam grading today before my month-long break starts...and boy, do I need it this time around! (And as for you, DI, I thought those cushy city jobs were kind of a permanent holiday... *ducks as Clea arrives*) Greg Heh, congrats, Tim–I know how you feel. I’m finishing up my final exam grading today before my month-long break starts…and boy, do I need it this time around! (And as for you, DI, I thought those cushy city jobs were kind of a permanent holiday… *ducks as Clea arrives*)

Greg

]]> By: DrumIntellect http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-1521 DrumIntellect Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:45:20 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-1521 Tim, 5 weeks holiday!? We got a half hour off for a "holiday" lunch:) (Okay, we are getting Monday off as well, but 5 weeks... nice!) Tim, 5 weeks holiday!?
We got a half hour off for a “holiday” lunch:) (Okay, we are getting Monday off as well, but 5 weeks… nice!)

]]> By: Tim Byatt http://www.furtherreview.net/2006/12/19/episode-27-of-upon-further-review/#comment-1507 Tim Byatt Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:01:44 +0000 http://www.furtherreview.net/?p=52#comment-1507 Thanks for all the entertainment this past year Greg and Clea. I now play Poker Stars with the free play money Texas Hold'em. It's a great site. Poker has really exploded in popularity here in Sydney. Tonight my cousin is taking me to a free Tournament at a club. It's free entry with prizes for the top place-getters. I think it's all about getting people in to buy drinks. I can't wait! Last night I won my first Poker Stars Tourny (with play money of course...) with 45 people starting. Man, it's such a buzz. If I sound a bit chirpy then it might be because today is my last day before 5 weeks holiday Have a very Happy Christmas and I'm looking forward to hearing more from the Dynamic Duo in 07. Best Regards, Tim Thanks for all the entertainment this past year Greg and Clea.

I now play Poker Stars with the free play money Texas Hold’em. It’s a great site. Poker has really exploded in popularity here in Sydney. Tonight my cousin is taking me to a free Tournament at a club. It’s free entry with prizes for the top place-getters. I think it’s all about getting people in to buy drinks. I can’t wait! Last night I won my first Poker Stars Tourny (with play money of course…) with 45 people starting. Man, it’s such a buzz.

If I sound a bit chirpy then it might be because today is my last day before 5 weeks holiday

Have a very Happy Christmas and I’m looking forward to hearing more from the Dynamic Duo in 07.

Best Regards,
Tim

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